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  Jesus never existed!!

  by jw_uncovered in

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  buddha of india .

  he performed miracles and raised one man, el-azar-us, from the dead.

  the sun is the "light of the world.

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  D wiltshire

  JW_,

  I’ve read parts of what you wrote as I usually do when I find something that is very BIAS. I don't spend much time on such poorly written stuff.

  Lets face it if something has written in a very prejudicial manner, and not what you consider a fair treatment of facts but very slanted, and the format is in a black and white thinking such as:(I'm right and everybody that disagrees with me is an idiot). Why read it extensively.

  Here are a few quotes that are proof of your DOGMATIC style conclusions:

  The Proof
  The assertion that Jesus Christ is a myth can be proved not only through the works of dissenters and "pagans" who knew the truth - and who were viciously refuted or murdered for their battle against the Christian priests and "Church Fathers" fooling the masses with their fictions - but also through the very statements of the Christians themselves, who continuously disclose that they knew Jesus Christ was a myth founded upon more ancient deities located throughout the known ancient world. In fact, Pope Leo X, privy to the truth because of his high rank, made this curious declaration, "What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"15 (Emphasis added.) As Wheless says, "The proofs of my indictment are marvellously easy."

  Non-Biblical Sources
  Basically, there are no non-biblical references to a historical Jesus by any known historian of the time during and after Jesus's purported advent. Walker says, "No literate person of his own time mentioned him in any known writing." Eminent Hellenistic Jewish historian and philosopher Philo (20 B.C.E.-50 C.E.), alive at the purported time of Jesus, makes no mention of him. Nor do any of the some 40 other historians who wrote during the first one to two centuries of the Common Era. "Enough of the writings of [these] authors . . . remain to form a library. Yet in this mass of Jewish and Pagan literature, aside from two forged passages in the works of a Jewish author, and two disputed passages in the works of Roman writers, there is to be found no mention of Jesus Christ."28 Their silence is deafening testimony against the historicizers

  In the entire works of the Jewish historian Josephus, which constitute many volumes, there are only two paragraphs that purport to refer to Jesus. Although much has been made of these "references," they have been dismissed by all scholars and even by Christian apologists as forgeries, as have been those referring to John the Baptist and James, "brother" of Jesus. Bishop Warburton labeled the Josephus interpolation regarding Jesus as "a rank forgery, and a very stupid one,

  
  And as I mention If you can’t dazzle them with briliance then you poor on the BULL SHIT as you do here:

  Just trying to help you people deprogram from your mind control. If you still believe in JW/Christianity afterwards you are truely an idiot!... Of course there's always the fools in society who take everything literally. I could probably convince you people into thinking Little Red Ridding hood is a true story lol!!!

  Looking forward to you enlightening posts.

  If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
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  Jesus never existed!!

  by jw_uncovered in

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  buddha of india .

  he performed miracles and raised one man, el-azar-us, from the dead.

  the sun is the "light of the world.

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  D wiltshire

  jw_uncovered,

  I think you are a follower of this philosophy:

  If you can't dazle them with brillance
  Then baffle them with Bull Shit.

  If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
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  Your ideas about a disaster at WTS headquarters

  by Mindchild in

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  for the last few days i've been involved in putting a post together for this board that has been growing and growing because one idea led to another, etc.

  (i really got to stop drinking so much caffeine) anyway i'm at a point where i would appreciate some feedback.. the sept 11 terrorist attack got me thinking about what would happen if there was a major physical disaster at either ny headquarters or bethel.

  i'm talking about say a horrific accident or terrorist act that leaves many witnesses dead and injured.

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  Mind,

  I find nothing what so ever offensive about this thread.
  We are free to think and speculate as much as we want now that we have given up following men,(at least most of us have).

  My back round in explosives(from age 11 to present) could make me very dangereous if I wanted to be.

  But I'm a peaceful guy and find a great deal of delight in life and letting other mke their own choices.

  While I love to expose the WT, I feel no driving hatred.

  True some hatred consumed individual could get ideas from this post but it's only ideas and we all have the right to think and feel what ever we want.
  The internets very nature is, ideas and information dispensing.
  You can use the internet to find information that is very dangereous in the wrong hands, but nothing we can do it's already out there.

  Power to the people and free speach.

  If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
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  Fact finding for You Knows Apostasy!

  by D wiltshire in

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  lets play a game!.

  let make beleive that this post is headed by elders from you know congregation, and they have heard rumors about you know apostasy, but before they can get a committee together the need solid facts that you know is truly an apostate.. the poster can play either the part of elders who are investigating, or that of a loyal jws bringing facts to the elders attention about this matter.. i think this could be fun, or i maybe totally wrong and nobody wants to play this game.. we might even get enough facts together to form a committee and disfellowship him (in our game).

  i'll defend your right to say it, but it doesn't mean i beleive it.

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  Dear Brother Larc,

  Your love and comcern for our brother YK is very commendable.
  To not rush to judgement is one of your most noble qualities.

  If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
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  Fact finding for You Knows Apostasy!

  by D wiltshire in

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  lets play a game!.

  let make beleive that this post is headed by elders from you know congregation, and they have heard rumors about you know apostasy, but before they can get a committee together the need solid facts that you know is truly an apostate.. the poster can play either the part of elders who are investigating, or that of a loyal jws bringing facts to the elders attention about this matter.. i think this could be fun, or i maybe totally wrong and nobody wants to play this game.. we might even get enough facts together to form a committee and disfellowship him (in our game).

  i'll defend your right to say it, but it doesn't mean i beleive it.

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  D wiltshire

  So what do you think should YK be disfellowshipped.

  If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
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  Message To The Server!

  by Bill Parker in

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  would you please remove all of my posts from your board!

  bill parker

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  Bill,
  I don't think they could do a libel.
  They are a public figure and can come under closer scrutiniy.
  I wouldn't worry about it, I think if you have little then you have little to worry about.
  Anyway if they took someone to court the publicity would be very bad for them.

  If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
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  Michael Jackson On His Life As One Of JWs!!!

  by MadApostate in

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  my sabbath.

  by michael jackson.

  the sabbath was when i could be.

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  D wiltshire

  MA,
  From reading Mike's words, he definitatly has an unhealthy need to be involed with young children.

  If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
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  Addition To post on Disfellowshipping!

  by Bill Parker in

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  i should have closed with the following comnment on my post.. when the clean-up is finally done by the messiah through the angels it will be fair and just.

  no one at that time will be able to argue what he does.they will not be able to say it is a cruel practice.

  it wasn't in the 1st century as i showed in the article.

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  D wiltshire

  Jesus never disfellowshipped anyone.

  His advice in Matt.18 was for jews under law. And was not even close the the shunning that goes on in high control groups like JWs.

  He said nothing about a Judicial committee to disfellowship.
  He only said let him be just as a tax collector or man of the nations to you(SINGULAR for you).
  To better understand what Jesus meant we need to see how Jesus treated tax collectors and men of the nations. Jesus did not shun these people in fact he eat and talked with them. Tax collectors, and harlots, regularly associated with him and he welcomed them.

  Matthew 13 Illustration of the Wheat and weeds.
  Jesus says NOT to separate them by human means but to let the ANGELS do so at the very conclusion of this system.

  Men are not following Jesus advice and are accidentally uprooting the wheat.

  If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
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  Can You Defend Yourself before a J. Committee?

  by D wiltshire in

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  to those who have been before a judicial committee for apostacy.. the elders will ask you questions not for the purpose of finding out the truth, but to make sure they can df you.. at my appeal hearing serveral months ago i was questioned by the appeal committees to their satifaction, they even thanked me for my honesty, as it helped them get what they were looking for to make the original dfing stand.. after they were finished with their questions i ask if i could now defend myself and prove that i was telling the truth and not a biblical apostate.. the chairman informed me that i would not be allowed to defend myself.. i looked at all 8 brothers(2 committees 5 & 3) in total amazement at his refusal to allow me to defend myself.

  to them(8) it seem perfectly alright not to allow me to defend myself.. wow.. the chairman said they really were not a judicial court and did not need to be that concerned about doing things in harmony with what is concidered to be fair and right by worldly courts or the bible.

  in fact the chairman spent about 10 minutes trying to explain why they didn't have have to be fair in the legalistic way of courts.. .

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  Wiz,

  These elder's are supposed to be the same ones that according to the WT will rule as princes in the earth.
  Imagine if that were truth?(There goes paradise.)

  If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
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  Can You Defend Yourself before a J. Committee?

  by D wiltshire in

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  to those who have been before a judicial committee for apostacy.. the elders will ask you questions not for the purpose of finding out the truth, but to make sure they can df you.. at my appeal hearing serveral months ago i was questioned by the appeal committees to their satifaction, they even thanked me for my honesty, as it helped them get what they were looking for to make the original dfing stand.. after they were finished with their questions i ask if i could now defend myself and prove that i was telling the truth and not a biblical apostate.. the chairman informed me that i would not be allowed to defend myself.. i looked at all 8 brothers(2 committees 5 & 3) in total amazement at his refusal to allow me to defend myself.

  to them(8) it seem perfectly alright not to allow me to defend myself.. wow.. the chairman said they really were not a judicial court and did not need to be that concerned about doing things in harmony with what is concidered to be fair and right by worldly courts or the bible.

  in fact the chairman spent about 10 minutes trying to explain why they didn't have have to be fair in the legalistic way of courts.. .

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  What gets me is that the WT has the nerve to call them "JUDICIAL" committees.
  Judicial and justice arn't they related, if not brothers definitly 1st cousins.
  I don't think something can be given the adjective "judicial" unless justice is what is implied.

  And if justice is not a priority in these meeting what would be a more apropriate adjective in place of "JUDICIAL"?

  Any thoughts?

  If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?